{"id":88731,"date":"2023-12-28T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-12-28T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=88731"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:07:39","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:07:39","slug":"pengepodden-ekspertenes-portefoljer-i-fjerde-kvartal-2023","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-ekspertenes-portefoljer-i-fjerde-kvartal-2023\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden &#8211; Ekspertenes portef\u00f8ljer i fjerde kvartal 2023"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"#pengepodden - Ekspertenes portef\u00f8ljer i fjerde kvartal 2023\" width=\"770\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/H5OmCdZmvcM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I denne episoden g\u00e5r Mads og Bj\u00f8rn Erik gjennom resultatene i sine portef\u00f8ljer per fjerde kvartal 2023. Roger er dessverre ikke med pga sykdom. Mads har gjort et comeback det siste \u00e5ret. Bj\u00f8rn Erik ligger bak indeksen siste \u00e5ret, mens Rogers amerikanske portef\u00f8ljer har gitt kanonavkastning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe title='Embed Player' width='100%' height='188px' src='https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\/6582ffeeabdc6c00168df6ce' scrolling='no' frameborder='0' style='border:none;overflow:hidden;'><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"mads-foran-oslo-bors-ytd-og-siste-12-mnd-bak-oslo-bors-siste-3-ar\">Mads: Foran Oslo B\u00f8rs YTD og siste 12 mnd., bak Oslo B\u00f8rs siste 3 \u00e5r<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 01:27) Mads sin portef\u00f8lje har gjort et comeback det siste \u00e5ret. Avkastning YTD er pluss 17 % og siste 12 m\u00e5neder 20 %, begge pent foran <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/market\/no\">Oslo B\u00f8rs<\/a>. Siste 3 \u00e5r er avkastningen 14 %, som er betydelig bak<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/market\/no\">Oslo B\u00f8rs<\/a>.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/aksjeforum\/medlem\/madsnordnet\">Se Mads sin portef\u00f8lje i kakediagrammet under og p\u00e5 Shareville.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"908\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-88734\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13.png 908w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-620x393.png 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-150x95.png 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-768x487.png 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-500x317.png 500w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-800x507.png 800w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-370x235.png 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-270x171.png 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-570x362.png 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-13-740x469.png 740w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 908px) 100vw, 908px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Mads har stort sett konsentrert portef\u00f8ljen mot bank, olje og laks. Hans beste case i \u00e5r har imidlertid v\u00e6rt Kitron, som han solgte p\u00e5 42 kr etter en dobling p\u00e5 et \u00e5r. Laks (Mowi) er hans st\u00f8rste enkeltposisjon, som har v\u00e6rt st\u00f8dig og gitt omkring 10 % avkastning inkl utbytter i 2023. Bank\/finans har v\u00e6rt \u00e5lreit. Mads har ogs\u00e5 gjort to veddem\u00e5l som har v\u00e6rt svake: Hafnia og Magnora, heldigvis sm\u00e5 posisjoner. Siste \u00abbettet\u00bb &#8211; i desember &#8211; er Nordic Semiconducor og Wilh. Wilhelmsen Holding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"bjorn-erik-bak-verdensindeksen-i-alle-perioder\"><strong>Bj\u00f8rn Erik: Bak verdensindeksen i alle perioder<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 15:03) Bj\u00f8rn Erik er misforn\u00f8yd med avkastningen b\u00e5de p\u00e5 kort og lang sikt. B\u00e5de YTD, siste 12 m\u00e5neder og siste 3 \u00e5r ligger hans portef\u00f8lje bak et bredt globalt indeksfond.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/aksjeforum\/medlem\/bjrnnordnet\">Se Bj\u00f8rn Eriks Shareville-portef\u00f8lje her og i kakediagrammet under.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"908\" height=\"578\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-88735\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14.png 908w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-620x395.png 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-150x95.png 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-768x489.png 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-500x318.png 500w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-800x509.png 800w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-370x236.png 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-270x172.png 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-470x300.png 470w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-570x363.png 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-14-740x471.png 740w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 908px) 100vw, 908px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik har bommet p\u00e5 stort sett alle de aktive valgene det siste \u00e5ret, med unntak av Van Eck Video Gaming and eSports ETF.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nytt fond i portef\u00f8ljen er Nordnet Global Indeks 125, som er Nordnets nye gearede globale indeksfond. Dette fondet har f\u00e5tt en god start, takket v\u00e6re et sterkt aksjemarked. Siden starten 1. oktober har fondet gitt ca 8 % avkastning mot ca 6 % for Nordnet Indeksfond Global ESG. I fallende markeder vil dette fondet falle mer enn et globalt indeksfond.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Valutasikrings-veddem\u00e5let i KLP AksjeGlobal Valutasikret kommenteres ogs\u00e5. Med en dollarkurs p\u00e5 10,30 norske kroner er veddem\u00e5let snart p\u00e5 plussiden.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"roger-bak-indeks-med-sin-norske-portefolje-foran-pa-de-to-amerikanske-portefoljene\"><strong>Roger: Bak indeks med sin norske portef\u00f8lje, foran p\u00e5 de to amerikanske portef\u00f8ljene<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 28:05) Rogers norske portef\u00f8lje kommenteres kort. Siste 12 m\u00e5neder er avkastningen til Roger 9,7 %, som er p\u00e5 niv\u00e5 med Oslo B\u00f8rs. Siste 3 \u00e5r er avkastningen 38 %, som ogs\u00e5 er p\u00e5 niv\u00e5 med Oslo B\u00f8rs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"908\" height=\"584\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-88736\" style=\"width:908px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15.png 908w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-620x399.png 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-150x96.png 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-768x494.png 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-500x322.png 500w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-800x515.png 800w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-370x238.png 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-270x174.png 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-570x367.png 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/image-15-740x476.png 740w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 908px) 100vw, 908px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Telenor er st\u00f8rste posisjon i fondet, og har dratt opp avkastningen i 2023. Schibsted og Salmar har ogs\u00e5 v\u00e6rt sterke i 2023. Tomra og Scatec har bidratt negativt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De to amerikanske portef\u00f8ljene til Roger har levert fantastisk avkastning det siste \u00e5ret, p\u00e5 81 % 119 % m\u00e5lt i norske kroner \u2013 som er langt bedre enn dem amerikanske Nasdaq indeksen, som er opp knappe 50 % siste \u00e5ret m\u00e5lt i NOK.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roger har vektet ned b\u00f8rsvinneren Nvidia og investert pengene i konkurrenten AMD det siste halv\u00e5ret. Activision Blizzard er solgt &#8211; pga oppkj\u00f8pet fra Microsoft. Pengene er reinvestert i Berkshire Hathaway og Tesla.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"spadommer-for-2023-og-2024\">Sp\u00e5dommer for 2023 og 2024<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 38:38) F\u00f8rst g\u00e5r Bj\u00f8rn Erik og Mads gjennom sp\u00e5dommene for 2023, som ble gitt i <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-slik-har-ekspertenes-portefoljer-utviklet-seg-i-2022-prognoser-2023\/\">#pengepodden episode 416 for ett \u00e5r siden<\/a>. Mads traff spot on for Oslo B\u00f8rs, med 10 % oppgang. De to andre var litt unna.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alle tre bommet grovt p\u00e5 USA b\u00f8rsen, hvor prognosen i studio l\u00e5 p\u00e5 0 til minus 10 %. SP500 er opp 25 % i dollar i \u00e5r (per 20. desember), ca 30 % oppgang i NOK.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roger tippet p\u00e5 uendret oljepris, p\u00e5 rundt 80 dollar. Det var spot on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Norsk sentralbankrente, som l\u00e5 p\u00e5 2,75 % i desember 2022, sp\u00e5dde Nordnets eksperter opp til 3 %. Det var altfor lavt. 4,5 % styringsrente n\u00e5.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For boligprisene i Norge sp\u00e5dde Bj\u00f8rn Erik flat prisutvikling nominelt, dvs et prisfall i reelle priser. Per desember 2023 er 12 m\u00e5neders nominell prisvekst i Norge p\u00e5 0,5 %.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For 2024 sp\u00e5r Mads en oppgang p\u00e5 Oslo B\u00f8rs p\u00e5 10 %. Mange norske store selskaper har \u00ablagget\u00bb. Og hvis Trump vinner valget i USA i 2024, vil det trolig bli ekstra fart p\u00e5 b\u00f8rsene, dels pga skattekutt i USA og mer positivisme rundt olje. Bj\u00f8rn Erik kliner til med pluss 15 %.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>USA-b\u00f8rsen tipper Mads opp 13 %. Bj\u00f8n Erik tipper pluss 5-10 %.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oljeprisen avhenger mye av om OPEC bestemmer seg for \u00e5 opprettholde kutt eller forsvare og \u00f8ke markedsandeler. Mads tipper oljeprisen opp 5 dollar, til 85 dollar. Bj\u00f8rn Erik tipper uendret kurs p\u00e5 80 dollar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Norske renter forventes \u00e5 falle litt gjennom 2024. Mads tipper en styringsrente p\u00e5 3,75 % ved utgangen av 2024, fra dagens 4,5 %. Bj\u00f8rn Erik tipper 4 %.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>N\u00e5r det gjelder norske boligpriser er Bj\u00f8rn Erik er Bj\u00f8rn Erik enig med prognosene i Norges Banks siste <a href=\"https:\/\/www.norges-bank.no\/aktuelt\/nyheter-og-hendelser\/Publikasjoner\/Pengepolitisk-rapport-med-vurdering-av-finansiell-stabilitet\/2023\/ppr-42023\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Pengepolitiske rapport fra 14. desember<\/a>: Opp 1 % nominelt i 2024, dvs en fortsatt realprisnedgang.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/shows.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via Acast<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I denne episoden g\u00e5r Mads og Bj\u00f8rn Erik gjennom resultatene i sine portef\u00f8ljer per fjerde kvartal 2023. Roger er dessverre ikke med pga sykdom. Mads har gjort et comeback det siste \u00e5ret. Bj\u00f8rn Erik ligger bak indeksen siste \u00e5ret, mens Rogers amerikanske portef\u00f8ljer har gitt kanonavkastning. Mads: Foran Oslo B\u00f8rs YTD og siste 12 mnd., 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