{"id":87470,"date":"2023-10-26T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-10-26T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=87470"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:08:00","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:08:00","slug":"pengepodden-inflasjon-bra-for-lantakere-kjipt-for-sparekunder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-inflasjon-bra-for-lantakere-kjipt-for-sparekunder\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden &#8211; Inflasjon: Bra for l\u00e5ntakere, kjipt for sparekunder"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik bes\u00f8k av Gisle Natvik, professor i samfunns\u00f8konomi p\u00e5 BI. Tema er inflasjon og renter \u2013 og hvordan h\u00f8y inflasjon p\u00e5virker alle investeringer, l\u00e5n og beslutninger vi gj\u00f8r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe title='Embed Player' width='100%' height='188px' src='https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\/653926bcfc473400126eff89' scrolling='no' frameborder='0' style='border:none;overflow:hidden;'><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mange av oss har aldri opplevd tider med h\u00f8y inflasjon. Sist gang inflasjonen var over 5 % var p\u00e5 f\u00f8rste halvdel av 90-tallet, alts\u00e5 for 30 \u00e5r siden! P\u00e5 70- og 80-tallet l\u00e5 inflasjonen i Norge og USA p\u00e5 mellom 5 og 15 %. Fra begynnelsen av 1990-tallet og frem til 2020-21 hadde vi stort sett lav inflasjon, n\u00e6r inflasjonsm\u00e5let p\u00e5 2-2,5 %, og fallende renter, b\u00e5de i Norge, EU og USA. Men s\u00e5 kom pandemien, og nullrenter ble avledet av inflasjon og renteoppgang. H\u00f8r Gisle fortelle om dette.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hvordan tenker sentralbanksjefen i en slik situasjon \u2013 og m\u00e5 inflasjonen ned p\u00e5 inflasjonsm\u00e5let p\u00e5 2,0 % f\u00f8r sentralbankene setter ned renten, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Det er viktig \u00e5 skille mellom nominelle renter og realrenter. I dag ligger\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/quotes\/US10YTIP\" rel=\"noopener\">10 \u00e5rs realrente p\u00e5 amerikanske statsobligasjoner (TIPS)<\/a>\u00a0p\u00e5 rundt 2,5 %.\u00a0 I perioden 2020 til v\u00e5ren 2022 var denne realrenten negativ, forteller Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Inflasjonen krymper l\u00e5net<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>H\u00f8y inflasjon er gode nyheter for dem som har gjeld, og d\u00e5rlig nytt for dem som har sparepenger,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nettavisen.no\/okonomi\/hoy-inflasjon-kan-vare-en-gavepakke-folk-har-glemt-dette\/s\/5-95-607281\" rel=\"noopener\">har Gisle uttalt i media<\/a>. Hva mener han med det?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Inflasjon har betydelige fordelingseffekter som sl\u00e5r ulikt ut i befolkningen. Dette diskuteres.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Men de unge boligkj\u00f8perne f\u00f8lger seg ikke akkurat rikere, n\u00e5 som boligl\u00e5nsrenten er over 5 %&#8230; De har en stram likviditet. De positive effektene er vanskeligere \u00e5 oppdage enn de negative, fordi du har f\u00e5tt mindre penger \u00e5 rutte med akkurat her og n\u00e5.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u00f8nnsvekst og inflasjon diskuteres ogs\u00e5.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Inflasjon og eiendeler<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u00e5 samme m\u00e5te som inflasjonen gj\u00f8r gjelden mindre verdt, vil sparepengene tape verdi, i alle fall hvis de st\u00e5r i banken til lav rente. Hvilke eiendeler \/ aktivaklasser b\u00f8r du sitte med dersom inflasjonen holdes h\u00f8y over lang tid?\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Det naturlige svaret i f\u00f8lge l\u00e6reboken er realaktiva \u2013 typisk r\u00e5varer, eiendom og andeler i bedrifter (aksjer, aksjefond). Disse vil som regel holde tritt med inflasjonen p\u00e5 lang sikt. Du skal ikke sitte med lange obligasjoner \/ pengekrav i nominelle verdier. Det siste \u00e5ret, hvor vi har opplevd h\u00f8y inflasjon, har dette i stemt til en viss grad, forteller Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-1024x576.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-87471\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-1024x576.png 1024w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-620x349.png 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-150x84.png 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-1536x864.png 1536w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-500x281.png 500w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-800x450.png 800w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-1280x720.png 1280w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-370x208.png 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-270x152.png 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-570x321.png 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde-740x416.png 740w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/10\/460_bloggbilde.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik kommenterer ogs\u00e5 en unders\u00f8kelse fra Duke University, som er gjengitt av P\u00e5l Ringholm i <a href=\"https:\/\/www.finansavisen.no\/nyheter\/finans\/2021\/06\/10\/7687315\/hvordan-sikre-seg-mot-inflasjon-over-5\" rel=\"noopener\">juni 2021 i Finansavisen<\/a>.\u00a0I unders\u00f8kelsen har man sett p\u00e5 historisk\u00a0<em>real<\/em>avkastning til ulike investeringer basert p\u00e5 8 perioder med h\u00f8y inflasjon tilbake til 1930-tallet. Energi og r\u00e5varer topper listen. Aksjer og obligasjoner p\u00e5 bunn. Bolig midt p\u00e5 treet, minus 2 % realavkastning.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik forteller at verdsettelsen av aksjer blir p\u00e5virket av to motstridende faktorer i perioder med h\u00f8y inflasjon. H\u00f8yere inflasjon gir h\u00f8yere renter, som h\u00f8yere diskonteringsfaktor, som igjen gir lavere verdi p\u00e5 selskapenes fremtidige overskudd. Samtidig kan mange selskaper skru opp prisene p\u00e5 varer og tjenester med inflasjonen, og dermed ikke bli s\u00e5 skadelidende. Totalt vil normalt aksjer klare seg relativt bra. Men det vil v\u00e6re individuelle tapere og vinnere. Vekstaksjer, som har de store overskuddene langt frem i tid, vil v\u00e6re mest utsatt. Verdiaksjer mindre utsatt \u2013 og da s\u00e6rlig selskaper med prisingsmakt, som kan \u00f8ke prisene med inflasjonen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Det ert ogs\u00e5 betydelige forskjeller p\u00e5 timingen. I starten av en h\u00f8yinflasjonsperiode vil typisk aksjer og eiendom gj\u00f8re det svakt. N\u00e5r\/hvis inflasjonen har stabilisert seg p\u00e5 et h\u00f8yere niv\u00e5 vil realaktiva prestere bedre, kommenterer spare\u00f8konomen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Til slutt sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik Gisle om hvor han har investert sine egne langsiktige sparepenger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/shows.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via Acast<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik bes\u00f8k av Gisle Natvik, professor i samfunns\u00f8konomi p\u00e5 BI. Tema er inflasjon og renter \u2013 og hvordan h\u00f8y inflasjon p\u00e5virker alle investeringer, l\u00e5n og beslutninger vi gj\u00f8r. Mange av oss har aldri opplevd tider med h\u00f8y inflasjon. Sist gang inflasjonen var over 5 % var p\u00e5 f\u00f8rste halvdel av 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