{"id":81097,"date":"2023-01-12T14:15:05","date_gmt":"2023-01-12T13:15:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=81097"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:38:28","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:38:28","slug":"pengepodden-skagen-kon-tiki-om-kina-latin-amerika-og-tyrkia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-skagen-kon-tiki-om-kina-latin-amerika-og-tyrkia\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden &#8211; Skagen Kon-Tiki \u2013 om Kina, Latin-Amerika og Tyrkia"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik har bes\u00f8k av forvalter i Skagen Kon-Tiki, Fredrik Bjelland. Tema er om vi vil f\u00e5 et comeback for vekstmarkeder, utviklingen i Kina og hvorfor Latin-Amerika og Tyrkia hadde et godt b\u00f8rs\u00e5r i fjor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fredrik jobbet blant annet som forvalter i Oljefondet (NBIM) i Shanghai f\u00f8r han begynte i Skagenfondene i 2017. I dag forvalter han et av Norges st\u00f8rste aksjefond, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/market\/funds\/16802209-skagen-kon-tiki-a\">Skagen Kon-Tiki<\/a>, sammen med to kolleger.<\/p>\n\n\n<iframe title='Embed Player' width='100%' height='188px' src='https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\/63bffa47e1da890011310a81' scrolling='no' frameborder='0' style='border:none;overflow:hidden;'><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><strong>Skagenfondenes nytt\u00e5rskonferanse<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 02:48) Denne uken var det Skagen Fondenes nytt\u00e5rskonferanse. Fredrik og Bj\u00f8rn Erik diskuterer hovedtemaene fra konferansen. Usikkerhet, Russland og Kina. Samt det krevende gr\u00f8nne skiftet, som krever en stor \u00f8kning i produksjonen av edle metaller. Alle kan se opptak fra nytt\u00e5rskonferansen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skagenfondene.no\/nyheter\/\" rel=\"noopener\">p\u00e5 Skagen Fondenes nettsider<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-1024x682.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-81098\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-1024x682.png 1024w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-620x413.png 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-150x100.png 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-500x333.png 500w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-800x533.png 800w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-370x247.png 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-270x180.png 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-570x380.png 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde-740x493.png 740w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/01\/419_bloggbilde.png 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><strong>Status og utsikter for vekstmarkeder<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 11:37) Vekstmarkeder har v\u00e6rt i motbakke i over 10 \u00e5r\u2026 Da Fredrik var p\u00e5 bes\u00f8k i #pengepodden for 4 \u00e5r siden sa han at selskaper i EM (Emerging Markets, eller vekstmarkeder) var meget lavt priset i forhold til amerikanske aksjer, ved \u00e5 se p\u00e5 n\u00f8kkeltall som P\/E og P\/B \u2013 som var mye lavere i EM enn i USA. I dag er EM enda billigere, sier Bj\u00f8rn Erik. Fredrik er tydelig p\u00e5 at han ikke vet n\u00e5r EM snur, men at det er et godt utgangspunkt \u00e5 kj\u00f8pe n\u00e5r en aksje eller et marked er lavt verdsatt. N\u00e5 er vi nede p\u00e5 tidligere bunn-niv\u00e5er fra rundt \u00e5r 2000.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kina utgj\u00f8r ca 1\/3 del av EM-indeksen, og dominerer s\u00e5ledes EM-indeksen. Men kinesiske aksjer har gitt svak langsiktig avkastning.MSCI China har n\u00e6r null avkastning siden 1993, kun pluss 1,3 % nominell brutto avkastning. Dette i en periode hvor den kinesiske \u00f8konomien har vokst voldsomt. Hvorfor har ikke denne \u00f8konomiske veksten kommet aksjon\u00e6rene til gode, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Russiske aksjer ble nedskrevet til 0 \u2013 og ekskludert fra MSCI Emerging Markets indeksen &#8211; noen dager etter Ukrainakrigens utbrudd i februar\/mars 2022. Skagen Kon-Tiki hadde en stor overvekt i russiske aksjer i forkant av krigen. Hva har dere gjort med aksjene, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kina\u2013Taiwan-konflikten blir ogs\u00e5 diskutert.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sekund\u00e6rnoteringer av kinesiske selskaper som Alibaba og Tencent i USA blir ogs\u00e5 nevnt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><strong>Latin-Amerika og Tyrkia opp i 2022<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 55:28) Det er lett \u00e5 glemme at Latin-Amerika hadde et bra b\u00f8rs\u00e5r i fjor, siden EM som helhet gjorde det svakt. Fredrik forteller at spesielt Brasil hadde et sterkt \u00e5r. Med oljeselskapet Petrobras og jernmalmprodusenten Vale i spissen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tyrkia er ogs\u00e5 en del av EM indeksen. Den tyrkiske b\u00f8rsen hadde et fantastisk \u00e5r i fjor, opp i overkant av 100 %. Hva er grunnen til det, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik. En av \u00e5rsakene er at tyrkere har kj\u00f8pt mye aksjer for \u00e5 bevare kj\u00f8pekraften i et land som har en inflasjon p\u00e5 60-70-80 %.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/shows.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via Acast<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik har bes\u00f8k av forvalter i Skagen Kon-Tiki, Fredrik Bjelland. Tema er om vi vil f\u00e5 et comeback for vekstmarkeder, utviklingen i Kina og hvorfor Latin-Amerika og Tyrkia hadde et godt b\u00f8rs\u00e5r i fjor. Fredrik jobbet blant annet som forvalter i Oljefondet (NBIM) i Shanghai f\u00f8r han begynte i Skagenfondene i 2017. 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