{"id":77689,"date":"2022-08-11T11:59:08","date_gmt":"2022-08-11T09:59:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=77689"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:38:29","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:38:29","slug":"pengepodden-pal-ringholm-de-lange-linjene-i-rente-og-aksjemarkedet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-pal-ringholm-de-lange-linjene-i-rente-og-aksjemarkedet\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden &#8211; P\u00e5l Ringholm: De lange linjene i rente- og aksjemarkedet"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik bes\u00f8k i studio av P\u00e5l Ringholm, tidligere kredittanalytiker i Sparebank1 Markets, og n\u00e5 investeringsdirekt\u00f8r i PKH. Tema er de lange linjene i rente- og aksjemarkedet. Podcasten kan ogs\u00e5 sees som video p\u00e5 Youtube &#8211; klikk p\u00e5 bildet over. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/play.acast.com\/s\/pengepodden\/397-regn-med-negativ-avkastning-i-amerikanske-aksjer-de-ti-n\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/play.acast.com\/s\/pengepodden\/397-regn-med-negativ-avkastning-i-amerikanske-aksjer-de-ti-n\" rel=\"noopener\">Lytt til episoden.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u00e5l har akkurat gitt ut en ny bok: <a href=\"https:\/\/hegnarbok.no\/products\/rik-pa-gjeld\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00abRik p\u00e5 gjeld\u00bb,<\/a> som Bj\u00f8rn Erik har lest i sommer. Foilene de snakker om (og som vises Youtube-videoen) er hentet fra denne boken. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"#pengepodden -  P\u00e5l Ringholm: De lange linjene i rente- og aksjemarkedet\" width=\"770\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3ishXCFbzZk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-wp-interactive=\"core\/file\" class=\"wp-block-file\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Foiler-Pal-Ringholm-Nordnet.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\">Foiler P\u00e5l Ringholm &#8211; Nordnet<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Foiler-Pal-Ringholm-Nordnet.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button\" download rel=\"noopener\">Last ned<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-77693\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-620x465.jpg 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-500x375.jpg 500w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-800x600.jpg 800w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-1280x960.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-1920x1440.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-370x278.jpg 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-270x203.jpg 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-570x428.jpg 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-740x555.jpg 740w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/08\/Pal-og-BE-80x60.jpg 80w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-huge-font-size\"><strong>De lange linjene i verdens rente- og aksjemarkeder<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 07:12) Den globale gjelden i prosent av BNP har \u00f8kt i mange \u00e5r, og gjeld driver sykluser, forteller P\u00e5l. Han tror at den h\u00f8ye gjelden, kombinert med h\u00f8y inflasjon og renteoppgang, vil f\u00f8re til resesjon i store deler av verden.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pengemengden i verden har ogs\u00e5 \u00f8kt voldsomt siden finanskrisen. P\u00e5l forteller om konsekvensene av den massive pengetrykkingen. Han mener det var en tabbe at sentralbankene satte renten for lavt for lenge, og trykket for mye penger \u2013 noe som har resultert i veldig h\u00f8ye aktivapriser.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De fleste indikatorer viser at aksjemarkedet fremdeles er h\u00f8yt priset. P\u00e5l omtaler fire fundamentale aksjemarkedsindikatorer, som alle viser at verdsettelsen er p\u00e5 rekordniv\u00e5er. N\u00e5r du har betalt for mye for fremtidig kontantstr\u00f8m blir avkastningen d\u00e5rlig. Han uttaler at du skal v\u00e6re \u00aburimelig heldig\u00bb om du skal f\u00e5 positiv avkastning p\u00e5 amerikanske aksjer de neste ti \u00e5rene, selv etter nedgangen det siste halv\u00e5ret. Aksjer i Emerging Markets (vekstmarkeder) er han imidlertid mer positiv til, siden verdsettelsen her er langt lavere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik fors\u00f8ker \u00e5 argumentere med at den langsiktige n\u00f8ytrale renten har falt de siste ti\u00e5rene, og at det er et argument for at aksjemarkedet ikke er s\u00e5 h\u00f8yt verdsatt likevel, men P\u00e5l er ikke enig. De siste 140 \u00e5rene er sammenhengen mellom aksjekurser og renter lik 0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u00e5l er ogs\u00e5 skeptisk til boligmarkedet, som han mener har stor fallh\u00f8yde.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-huge-font-size\"><strong>Taktisk allokering \u2013 P\u00e5l sitt syn p\u00e5 aksjer og renter p\u00e5 mellomlang sikt<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 38:45) P\u00e5l mener det er fornuftig med en undervekt i amerikanske og europeiske aksjer, og en overvekt i Emerging Markets.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Innenfor rentepapirer mener P\u00e5l man fortsatt skal v\u00e6re forsiktig med lang durasjon (lang bindingstid p\u00e5 obligasjoner\/ obligasjonsfond). Innenfor high yield er internasjonal high yield trolig mer attraktivt enn norsk high yield.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik er en forkjemper for h\u00f8y aksjeandel i pensjonssparingen, og argumenterer for at det er vanskelig \u00e5 time riktig for n\u00e5r man skal redusere aksjeandelen i pensjonsportef\u00f8ljen. Han viser til<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/100-prosent-aksjer-til-du-dor\/\"> Nordnets analyse<\/a> av historisk avkastning siste 150 \u00e5r for ulike spareprofiler med aksjer og renter for ulike \u00e5rskull. P\u00e5l understreker at aksjer er best p\u00e5 virkelig lang sikt, men at starttidspunktet p\u00e5 sparingen er viktig.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/shows.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via Acast<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik bes\u00f8k i studio av P\u00e5l Ringholm, tidligere kredittanalytiker i Sparebank1 Markets, og n\u00e5 investeringsdirekt\u00f8r i PKH. Tema er de lange linjene i rente- og aksjemarkedet. Podcasten kan ogs\u00e5 sees som video p\u00e5 Youtube &#8211; klikk p\u00e5 bildet over. Lytt til episoden. P\u00e5l har akkurat gitt ut en ny bok: 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