{"id":75868,"date":"2022-05-19T15:09:19","date_gmt":"2022-05-19T13:09:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=75868"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:20:22","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:20:22","slug":"pengepodden-slik-far-du-eksponering-mot-private-equity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-slik-far-du-eksponering-mot-private-equity\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden \u2013 Slik f\u00e5r du eksponering mot Private Equity"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik digitalt bes\u00f8k i studio av svenske Tom Berggren, forvalter i Carnegie Listed Private Equity. Tema er Private Equity og hvordan sm\u00e5sparere kan f\u00e5 eksponering mot PE-sektoren.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Private Equity fond er investeringsfond som investerer i bedrifter som ikke er notert p\u00e5 b\u00f8rs. Forkortes PE-fond \u2013 og kan oversettes til \u00abaktive eierfond\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/72Wd0weghb373GlulhKBYy\" rel=\"noopener\">Lytt til episoden.<\/a><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Sm\u00e5sparere har liten tilgang til PE-fond, siden de er forbeholdt institusjonelle investorer pga h\u00f8ye minsteinnskudd og lav likviditet. Det finnes to m\u00e5ter for \u00abvanlige folk\u00bb \u00e5 f\u00e5 eksponering mot PE-selskaper: enten ved \u00e5 kj\u00f8pe et b\u00f8rsnotert PE-selskap som svenske EQT, amerikanske KKR eller Berkshire Hathaway\/Blackstone &#8211; eller \u00e5 kj\u00f8pe et aksjefond og\/eller ETF som investerer i b\u00f8rsnoterte PE-selskaper. Et av de sv\u00e6rt f\u00e5 aksjefondene med dette mandatet forvalter dagens gjest, Tom Berggren. Han har forvaltet fondet i over 12 \u00e5r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tom forteller at PE-fond har gitt sv\u00e6rt god langsiktig avkastning \u2013 og bedre enn det globale aksjemarkedet, viser en del studier. De st\u00f8rste amerikanske universitetene lenge har plassert betydelige deler av portef\u00f8ljen i private equity-fond, gjerne 20-40 %.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik sp\u00f8r Tom om meravkastningen skyldes h\u00f8yere risiko i form av gjennomg\u00e5ende h\u00f8yere gjeldsgrad i PE-investeringene. Tom er ikke helt enig i det, og mener en annen forklaring er dyktige mennesker som skaper store verdier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Japanske Softbank, som Bj\u00f8rn Erik omtaler som \u00abPE p\u00e5 steroider\u00bb, og motsetningen, Berkshire Hathaway, som er et traust verdiorientert PE\/investeringsselskap, diskuteres. Begge er i fondets portef\u00f8lje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rentesensitiviteten til PE-selskapene diskuteres ogs\u00e5. De skyh\u00f8ye l\u00f8nningene til PE-selskapene diskuteres ogs\u00e5. Stikker ikke ledelsen i PE-selskapene av med en uforholdsmessig stor andel av verdistigningen, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik konfronterer ogs\u00e5 Tom med en fersk kommentar i Financial Times med overskriften \u00ab<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/328bc269-d836-4ca6-991a-029ed25e9e82\" rel=\"noopener\">Where the next financial crisis could come from<\/a>\u00bb, hvor kommentatoren sp\u00e5r at neste finanskrise vil utl\u00f8ses av et stort gjeldstynget PE-selskap.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Om Carnegie Listed Private Equity<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 22:44) Investeringsfilosofien til Carnegie Listed Private Equity er \u00e5 investere langsiktig i Private Equity-selskaper med bra ledelse, sterk track-record og attraktiv verdsettelse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fondet har 4 av 5 stjerner i Morningstar, alts\u00e5 har fondet hatt en h\u00f8yere risikojustert avkastnign enn fondskategorien siste tre \u00e5r. Fondet har gitt ca 17 % annualisert avkastning siste 10 \u00e5rene, m\u00e5lt i NOK, som er et par prosentpoeng bedre enn et globalt indeksfond som DNB Global Indeks \u2013 og bedre enn Morningstar-kategorien Bransjefond Private Equity. YTD er fondet imidlertid ned 14 %, som er ca 8 prosentpoeng d\u00e5rligere enn et globalt indeksfond. Hvorfor har fondet ditt falt mer enn et globalt indeksfond i \u00e5r, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De fem st\u00f8rste posisjonene i fondet er KKR, Blackstone, Apollo, HG Capital og Berkshire Hathaway. Hvorfor er ikke Berkshire fondets st\u00f8rste posisjon, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik, og viser til at Berkshire er et av f\u00e5 PE-selskaper som er i pluss i \u00e5r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lyttertips:<a href=\"http:\/\/p\/\"> Anders Misund i EQT \u2013 slik jobber et PE-selskap.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/shows.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via Acast<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik digitalt bes\u00f8k i studio av svenske Tom Berggren, forvalter i Carnegie Listed Private Equity. 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