{"id":73554,"date":"2022-03-03T14:51:19","date_gmt":"2022-03-03T13:51:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=73554"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:18:14","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:18:14","slug":"pengepodden-hva-er-en-kvalitetsaksje-roger-berntsen-vs-thomas-nielsen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-hva-er-en-kvalitetsaksje-roger-berntsen-vs-thomas-nielsen\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden &#8211; Hva er en kvalitetsaksje? Roger Berntsen vs Thomas Nielsen"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I denne nesten to timer lange #pengepodden-episoden f\u00e5r vi h\u00f8re en uh\u00f8ytidelig diskusjon om kvalitetsaksjer mellom Roger \u00abBull Berntsen\u00bb og Thomas Nielsen, portef\u00f8ljeforvalter i <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/market\/funds\/17106237-first-veritas\">First Veritas<\/a>. Debattleder er spare\u00f8konom Bj\u00f8rn Erik. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thomas og Roger er begge selverkl\u00e6rte kvalitetsinvestorer. De foretrekker selskaper med stabil og h\u00f8y avkastning p\u00e5 egenkapitalen \u2013 og som har lav gjeldsgrad. Men de har likevel valgt \u00e5 investere i sv\u00e6rt ulike selskaper. Det skyldes at de definerer kvalitetsaksjer noe ulikt, noe du f\u00e5r h\u00f8re mer om.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7FZLGcdMOz1Htz52X4Vyje\" rel=\"noopener\">Lytt til episoden.<\/a><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"#pengepodden - Hva er en kvalitetsaksje? Roger Berntsen vs Thomas Nielsen\" width=\"770\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GCJkO1vorgc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Hva er en kvalitetsaksje?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 03:05) Bj\u00f8rn Erik tar utgangspunkt i MSCIs globale kvalitetsindeks, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msci.com\/documents\/10199\/344aa133-d8fa-4a15-b091-20a8fd024b65\" rel=\"noopener\">MSCI World Quality Index<\/a>. B\u00e5de kortsiktig og langsiktig avkastning for denne indeksen er bedre enn MSCI World Index (verdensindeksen). Standardavviket er marginalt lavere. En sjelden og gunstig kombinasjon, med andre ord. Hvordan kan det g\u00e5 an, sp\u00f8r Thomas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MSCI bruker tre fundamentale n\u00f8kkeltall for \u00e5 definere og plukke ut kvalitetsaksjer:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>H\u00f8y egenkapitalavkastning<\/li><li>Stabil \u00e5rlig inntjeningsvekst<\/li><li>Lav gjeldsgrad<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Thomas og Roger forklarer hvordan deres modeller er i forhold til MSCIs definisjon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Enkeltselskaper<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 39:59) Det svenske gamingselskapet Evolution er den st\u00f8rste posisjonen i First Veritas. Thomas forteller hvorfor han anser dette selskapet som et kvalitetsselskap. Selskapet har hatt god vekst i mange \u00e5r, h\u00f8y egenkapitalavkastning, h\u00f8y cash conversion og h\u00f8ye og stabile marginer. Roger mener at nedsiderisikoen i denne aksjen er h\u00f8y grunnet nye reguleringer og lave inngangsbarrierer (moat) samt at selskapet \u00f8delegger sluttkundens \u00f8konomi og gj\u00f8r verden d\u00e5rligere, og er derfor ikke et kvalitetsselskap i hans \u00f8yne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>De andre selskapene som diskuteres er:<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Equinor (fra 57:55)<\/li><li>Novo Nordisk (fra 1:07:37)<\/li><li>Norsk Hydro (fra 1:15:30)<\/li><li>Bahnhof (fra 1:24:03)<\/li><li>Tomra (fra 1:31:37)<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Interesserte kan laste ned foilene som blir vist under sendingen her.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-file\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/030322-pengepodden-foiler.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\">Thomas og Roger &#8211; #pengepodden foiler<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/030322-pengepodden-foiler.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button\" rel=\"noopener\">Last ned<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Les mer om <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/market\/funds\/17106237-first-veritas\">First Veritas her<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/shows.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\" rel=\"noopener\">Abonner via Acast<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I denne nesten to timer lange #pengepodden-episoden f\u00e5r vi h\u00f8re en uh\u00f8ytidelig diskusjon om kvalitetsaksjer mellom Roger \u00abBull Berntsen\u00bb og Thomas Nielsen, portef\u00f8ljeforvalter i First Veritas. Debattleder er spare\u00f8konom Bj\u00f8rn Erik. Thomas og Roger er begge selverkl\u00e6rte kvalitetsinvestorer. De foretrekker selskaper med stabil og h\u00f8y avkastning p\u00e5 egenkapitalen \u2013 og som har lav gjeldsgrad. 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