{"id":68087,"date":"2021-05-20T16:23:10","date_gmt":"2021-05-20T14:23:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=68087"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:56:51","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:56:51","slug":"pengepodden-psykologi-og-penger-med-hallgeir-kvadsheim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-psykologi-og-penger-med-hallgeir-kvadsheim\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden \u2013 Psykologi og penger med Hallgeir Kvadsheim"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik bes\u00f8k i studio av Hallgeir Kvadsheim, kjent fra blant annet Luksusfellen. Tema er psykologi og penger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5tRe1uihVT0xbAwpwlNCFh\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5tRe1uihVT0xbAwpwlNCFh\" rel=\"noopener\">Lytt til episoden.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik forteller at han ble inspirert til \u00e5 lage en episode om dette temaet etter \u00e5 ha lest boken <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Psychology-Money-Timeless-lessons-happiness\/dp\/0857197681\" rel=\"noopener\">The Psychology of Money<\/a> av Morgan Housel fra 2020. Forfatterens hovedbudskap er at folk flest er alt for opptatt av den harde finansielle kunnskapen, og for lite opptatt av holdninger og enkle valg.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hallgeir forteller om hans erfaringer etter \u00e5 ha m\u00f8tt flere hundre personer med pengeproblemer gjennom 13 \u00e5r som programleder i Luksusfellen. Fellesnevneren er manglende impulskontroll som f\u00f8rer til at de ikke klarer \u00e5 si nei til fristelser.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"630\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-1024x630.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-68101\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-1024x630.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-620x381.jpg 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-150x92.jpg 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-768x472.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-1536x945.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-2048x1260.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-370x228.jpg 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-270x166.jpg 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-570x351.jpg 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2021\/05\/hallgeir-og-BE-740x455.jpg 740w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Hallgeir Kvadsheim og Bj\u00f8rn Erik S\u00e6ttem<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Hvordan \u00f8ke spareraten din?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 19:37) \u00c5 gj\u00f8re det bra med penger har lite \u00e5 gj\u00f8re med hvor smart du er, og mye \u00e5 gj\u00f8re med hvordan du oppf\u00f8rer deg, mener Housel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Niv\u00e5et p\u00e5 spareraten din er viktigere enn inntekten din eller avkastningen p\u00e5 dine investeringer n\u00e5r det kommer til hvor mye man kan spare p\u00e5 lang sikt. Det hjelper lite \u00e5 f\u00e5 god avkastning p\u00e5 sparepengene dine, om du sparer altfor lite. \u00c5 legge seg til gode sparevaner tidlig i livet er verdifullt, mener begge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-sparing-episode-148-slik-oker-du-sparingen-din-med-hallgeir-kvadsheim\/\">Hallgeir var gjest i #pengepodden i mars 2018<\/a>, og snakket om hvordan alle kan \u00f8ke sparingen sin. Dette er de viktigste r\u00e5dene:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Automatiser sparingen: Start m\u00e5nedlig spareavtale, gjerne i et globalt indeksfond.<\/li><li>G\u00e5 gjennom de store kostnadspostene dine og se om du kan redusere dem. Send forsikringer p\u00e5 anbud en gang i \u00e5ret.<\/li><li>Start med mikrosparing. Flere banker tilbyr en ordning hvor du sparer litt hver gang du drar kortet.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Oppdragelse p\u00e5virker oss i voksen alder<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 29:18) Mange studier viser at fattigdom g\u00e5r i arv. Er du fattig som barn, er det st\u00f8rre sannsynlighet for at du blir fattig som voksen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hallgeir forteller om en norsk studie fra SSB fra 2010 \u00ab<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ssb.no\/inntekt-og-forbruk\/artikler-og-publikasjoner\/gaar-okonomiske-levekaar-i-arv\" rel=\"noopener\">G\u00e5r \u00f8konomiske levek\u00e5r i arv<\/a>?\u00bb. Her er konklusjonen at selv om Norge er et land preget av sm\u00e5 \u00f8konomiske forskjeller, er det fremdeles slik at familiebakgrunn har betydning for hvilke \u00f8konomiske levek\u00e5r vi oppn\u00e5r senere i livet. At formuer g\u00e5r i arv er naturlig, men inntektsforskjeller g\u00e5r ogs\u00e5 til en viss grad i arv.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Flaks vs dyktighet<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 38:42) Skillet mellom flaks og dyktighet diskuteres ogs\u00e5. Resultatene bestemmes av mer enn innsats. Flaks og uflaks spiller ogs\u00e5 inn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik forteller om Bill Gates, som tilfeldigvis gikk p\u00e5 en av de eneste videreg\u00e5ende skolene i verden som hadde en datamaskin i 1968. Det var nok en utl\u00f8sende \u00e5rsak til hans enorme karrieresuksess.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Et annet eksempel er Kjell Inge R\u00f8kke, som holdt p\u00e5 \u00e5 g\u00e5 konkurs de f\u00f8rste \u00e5rene som fisker i Alaska, og som senere ble beskylt for \u00e5 ha sendt ut en b\u00e5t p\u00e5 havfiske som ikke var sj\u00f8dyktig, og en mann omkom i et skikkelig uv\u00e6r. (Kilde: Den uautoriserte <a href=\"https:\/\/www.norli.no\/kjell-inge-rokke\" rel=\"noopener\">biografien om Kjell Inge R\u00f8kke<\/a> av Gunnar Stavrum fra 2010.) Skillet mellom en modig og visjon\u00e6r forretningsmann og en uansvarlig gambler er h\u00e5rfint, siterer Bj\u00f8rn Erik forfatteren Morgan Housel. Det finnes nok ni andre R\u00f8kke-lignende personer som ikke lykkes ved \u00e5 ta s\u00e5 h\u00f8y risiko, mener Hallgeir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Blir du lykkeligere jo mer penger du har?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 49:31) Hallgeir g\u00e5r gjennom et par amerikanske studier om forholdet mellom lykke og penger. Daniel Kahneman, en israelsk-amerikansk psykolog, gjennomf\u00f8rte en studie i 2010 som viste at menneskers emosjonelle velv\u00e6re bare \u00f8ker opp til et visst \u00e5rlig inntektsniv\u00e5 \u2013 om lag 95 000 dollar i inntekt (cirka 800 000 kroner).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nylig kom det en ny studie fra USA publisert i tidsskriftet PNAS, med over 33 000 personer i utvalget, med en annen konklusjon: B\u00e5de opplevd velv\u00e6re og livstilfredshet \u00f8ker nesten line\u00e6rt med inntekten, uten \u00e5 flate ut. Lykke kan alts\u00e5 kj\u00f8pes for penger, if\u00f8lge denne unders\u00f8kelsen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En fellesnevner i studiene er at kontroll over egen tid gj\u00f8r folk mer lykkelig. Evnen til \u00e5 gj\u00f8re det du vil, n\u00e5r du vil, med hvem du vil, s\u00e5 lenge du vil, er uvurderlig.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>H\u00f8r ogs\u00e5 forrige #pengepodden-episode:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-hvorfor-taper-de-fleste-fonds-og-aksjeinvestorer-mot-indeksen\/\" class=\"rank-math-link\"> Hvorfor taper de fleste aksje- og fondsinvestorer mot indeks?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/pengepodden\" target=\"_blank\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I denne #pengepodden-episoden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik bes\u00f8k i studio av Hallgeir Kvadsheim, kjent fra blant annet Luksusfellen. 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