{"id":59558,"date":"2020-11-12T15:29:28","date_gmt":"2020-11-12T14:29:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=59558"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:12:15","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:12:15","slug":"pengepodden-slik-forvaltes-oljefondet-med-trond-grande","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-slik-forvaltes-oljefondet-med-trond-grande\/","title":{"rendered":"Pengepodden &#8211; Slik forvaltes Oljefondet \u2013 med Trond Grande"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I denne episoden av #pengepodden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik f\u00e5tt bes\u00f8k av Trond Grande, nestleder i oljefondet (NBIM). Tema er forvaltningen av oljefondet, optimal aksjeandel, forventet avkastning, fornybar-investeringer, rebalansering, aktiv forvaltning med mer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Innslaget ble f\u00f8rst sendt under Nordnet Live 4. november 2020. Videoen av dette intervjuet kan du se nederst i innlegget eller p\u00e5 v\u00e5r <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/nordnetnorge\" class=\"rank-math-link\" rel=\"noopener\">Youtube-kanal: Nordnet Norge<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Innledningsvis f\u00e5r du h\u00f8re mer om oljefondets investeringsstrategi, st\u00f8rrelse, historisk avkastning med mer. Deretter f\u00e5r vi h\u00f8re en samtale mellom Grande og v\u00e5r spare\u00f8konom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5R5P9bscQmGqB71LgzABG0\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5R5P9bscQmGqB71LgzABG0\" rel=\"noopener\">Lytt til episoden.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"584\" src=\"https:\/\/mk0nordnetblogrxs7tu.kinstacdn.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-1024x584.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-59579\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-1024x584.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-620x353.jpg 620w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-150x85.jpg 150w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-768x438.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-370x211.jpg 370w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-270x154.jpg 270w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-570x325.jpg 570w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM-740x422.jpg 740w, https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2020\/11\/NBIM.jpg 1253w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Oljefondets allokering<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 14:55)Bj\u00f8rn Erik mener at private sparere har mye \u00e5 l\u00e6re av oljefondets investeringsstrategi. Fondet har ca 70 % plassert i aksjer, knappe 30 % i renter og ca 3 % eiendom. Dette er ikke s\u00e5 ulikt aktivafordelingen i nordmenns pensjonssparing, mener han.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hvorfor har ikke oljefondet en aksjeandel p\u00e5 100 %, n\u00e5r renteavkastningen forventes \u00e5 v\u00e6re n\u00e6r 0 i en del \u00e5r fremover, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Videre diskuteres det om det kan v\u00e6re smart \u00e5 inkludere flere aktivaklasser enn aksjer, renter og eiendom i oljefondets portef\u00f8lje. Eksempelvis PE, infrastruktur, hedgefond, kanskje r\u00e5varer som gull og s\u00f8lv. H\u00f8r hva oljefondet nestleder tenker om dette.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Siden oppstarten av fondet i 1998 har fondet gitt en netto gjennomsnittlig realavkastning p\u00e5 4 % \u00e5rlig. Avkastningsforventninger fremover diskuteres.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Rebalansering har v\u00e6rt smart<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 32:01) En annen ting private sparere b\u00f8r l\u00e6re av oljefondet er disiplin \u2013 det \u00e5 holde seg til investeringsstrategien, selv n\u00e5r det stormer. En viktig del av denne strategien kalles rebalansering. Det inneb\u00e6rer \u00e5 \u00abnullstille\u00bb fordelingen mellom aksjer og renter ut fra visse forh\u00e5ndsbestemte regler.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Grande forteller at oljefondet utnyttet b\u00f8rskrakket under finanskrisen i 2008-09 til \u00e5 kj\u00f8pe mer aksjer for \u00e5 opprettholde aksjeandelen. I tillegg gikk oljefondet fra 40 til 60 prosent aksjer i samme periode, et vedtak som ble gjort i Stortinget, og som det norske folk har tjent stort p\u00e5.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Under coronakrisen i mars rakk imidlertid ikke fondet \u00e5 kj\u00f8pe aksjer f\u00f8r b\u00f8rsene snudde opp igjen. Hvorfor ikke, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Meravkastning med eksterne forvaltere<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 40:41) I dag benytter Oljefondet ca 80 eksterne forvaltere, og alle disse er relatert til enten fremvoksende markeder eller sm\u00e5 selskaper. Eksterne forvaltere styrer kun over 3-5 % av fondets verdier. I l\u00f8pet av de f\u00f8rste 20 \u00e5rene har meravkastningen v\u00e6rt 1,8 % \u00e5rlig etter kostnader, eller 47 milliarder kroner i meravkastning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hvis aktiv forvaltning har v\u00e6rt s\u00e5 l\u00f8nnsomt, hvorfor ikke \u00f8ke andelen aktiv forvaltning, sp\u00f8r Bj\u00f8rn Erik. Han sp\u00e5r videre at med Nicolai Tangen som ny sjef i oljefondet s\u00e5 vil andelen eksternforvaltning \u00f8ke. H\u00f8r hva Grande svarer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"NBIM (oljefondet) - Slik forvaltes v\u00e5r felles pensjonsformue - Nordnet Live 2020\" width=\"770\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/lAXtM6SgEQ4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Sjekk ogs\u00e5 ut forrige #pengepodden-episode: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-presidentvalget-og-borsen-med-kari-due-andresen\/\" class=\"rank-math-link\">Presidentvalget og b\u00f8rsen med Kari Due-Andresen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/pengepodden\" target=\"_blank\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/pengepodden\" target=\"_blank\">F\u00f8lg p\u00e5 SoundCloud<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" target=\"_blank\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I denne episoden av #pengepodden har Bj\u00f8rn Erik f\u00e5tt bes\u00f8k av Trond Grande, nestleder i oljefondet (NBIM). Tema er forvaltningen av oljefondet, optimal aksjeandel, forventet avkastning, fornybar-investeringer, rebalansering, aktiv forvaltning med mer. Innslaget ble f\u00f8rst sendt under Nordnet Live 4. november 2020. 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