{"id":46930,"date":"2019-09-26T14:34:53","date_gmt":"2019-09-26T12:34:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=46930"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:41:10","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:41:10","slug":"pengepodden-slik-investerer-du-i-en-tid-med-lave-renter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-slik-investerer-du-i-en-tid-med-lave-renter\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden &#8211; Slik investerer du i en tid med lave renter"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Vi har de laveste rentene internasjonalt p\u00e5 5000 \u00e5r, USA-b\u00f8rsen snuser p\u00e5 all time high, og eiendom er ogs\u00e5 rekordh\u00f8yt priset i mange land. Hvor skal du som sparer og investor plassere pengene dine i dagens lavrenteklima? Dette diskuterer Nordnet-trioen Bj\u00f8rn Erik, Mads og Roger i dag.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe title='Embed Player' width='100%' height='188px' src='https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/61653f7433ffb500132c0775\/61653f807a87fd001246db4f' scrolling='no' frameborder='0' style='border:none;overflow:hidden;'><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"fast-hoy-aksjeandel-ferdig-snakka\">Fast h\u00f8y aksjeandel \u2013 ferdig snakka?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 02:20) Bj\u00f8rn Erik innleder med \u00e5 si at som spare\u00f8konom kan han punktere denne diskusjonen ved \u00e5 svare at langsiktige sparere ikke b\u00f8r bekymre seg for dette. Skal du spare i 10-20-30 \u00e5r, er det enkle svaret \u00e5 ha en h\u00f8y aksjeandel og sitte i ro. Aksjer gir best avkastning over tid, og det er sv\u00e6rt vanskelig \u00e5 time markedet. Ferdig snakka. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Men vi har mange aktive kunder i kundestokken, og mange \u00f8nsker\nikke ha en slik passiv langsiktig strategi av ulike \u00e5rsaker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roger forteller om bakgrunnen for hvorfor vi har f\u00e5tt s\u00e5\nlave renter. Det skyldes at forventningene til vekst og inflasjon er lave.\nSentralbankene har spilt en mye mer aktiv rolle etter finanskrisen, ved \u00e5\nstadig kutte rentene for \u00e5 f\u00e5 opp veksten i \u00f8konomien etter nedturen i 2008-09.\nN\u00e5r ikke det hjalp tilstrekkelig begynte sentralbankene \u00e5 trykke penger og\nst\u00f8ttekj\u00f8pe verdipapirer, som presset de lange rentene enda lenger ned.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"hva-er-konsekvensene-av-de-lave-rentene\">Hva er konsekvensene av de lave rentene? <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(09:10) Den enkleste observasjonen er at det \u00e5 spare i banken er et tapsprosjekt \u2013 det gir en negativ realrente etter skatt. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Samtidig er det billig \u00e5 l\u00e5ne. Med en boligl\u00e5nsrente, fast\neller flytende, i Norge p\u00e5 2,5 til 3 % er det i praksis gratis \u00e5 l\u00e5ne. Med en\nforventet inflasjon p\u00e5 2 % og 22 % skattefradrag for renteutgiftene blir\nrealrenten etter skatt 0, hevder Bj\u00f8rn Erik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roger p\u00e5peker at vi er avhengig av \u00e5 ikke f\u00e5 deflasjon, hvor\nprisene i samfunnet faller. Da er vi ille ute, og kan havne i en Japan-felle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Enn annen konsekvens av de lave rentene er at innskuddene\nblir viktigere enn avkastningen n\u00e5r du sparer langsiktig, fordi du f\u00e5r mindre\ndrahjelp av avkastningen. Det inneb\u00e6rer at du m\u00e5 spare mer til pensjonen. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik mener at lave renter i realiteten fungerer som en\nskatt p\u00e5 risikoaversjon, siden de som sparer i banken taper penger. Samtidig\npremierer lave renter de som t\u00f8r \u00e5 ta risiko. De f\u00e5r l\u00e5ne billig \u2013 og lave\nrenter er som fyrer oppunder aktivapriser som aksjer og eiendom. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dette er uheldig p\u00e5 lang sikt, ettersom det kan f\u00f8re til\naktivabobler \u2013 ved at i aksjer og eiendom blir for h\u00f8yt priset, og f\u00f8r eller\nsenere vil en evt boble sprekke. Samt at det kan f\u00f8re til st\u00f8rre sosiale\nforskjeller. Klasseskillene vil \u00f8ke. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roger skyter inn at vi har en overinvestering i bolig p\u00e5\ngrunn av en altfor fordelaktig beskatning. Her er Bj\u00f8rn Erik uenig.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"kan-vi-forvente-lave-renter-til-evig-tid\">Kan vi forvente lave renter til evig tid?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 32:23) Jan Andreassen i Terra Gruppen, som var gjest i #pengepodden for ett \u00e5r siden, mener at vi vil f\u00e5 lave renter til enig tid. \u00c5rsaken er lavere produktivitetsvekst, lavere inflasjonsforventninger, flere eldre i befolkningen som sparer mye, med mer. Mads deler synet til Andreassen. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-wordpress wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-nordnetbloggen\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"BpZ88jcYMI\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/pengepodden-investor-lave-renter-til-evig-tid-med-jan-ludvig-andreassen\/\" rel=\"noopener\">#pengepodden investor &#8211; \u201dLave renter til evig tid\u201d med Jan Ludvig Andreassen<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"&laquo;#pengepodden investor &#8211; \u201dLave renter til evig tid\u201d med Jan Ludvig Andreassen&raquo; &#8212; Nordnetbloggen\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/pengepodden-investor-lave-renter-til-evig-tid-med-jan-ludvig-andreassen\/embed\/#?secret=BpZ88jcYMI\" data-secret=\"BpZ88jcYMI\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik viser til at Norges Bank har uttalt at den\nlangsiktige normalrenten har falt de siste \u00e5rene. For 5-6 \u00e5r siden uttalte\nsentralbanken at n\u00f8ytral styringsrente var 4 til 5 %. I dag uttrykker de at\nnormalrenten ligger p\u00e5 rundt 2 til 2,5 %. Det er et stort fall i en langsiktig\nnormalrente.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mads stiller sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om sentralbankene vil bli mindre viktig fremover, som f\u00f8lge av fremveksten av kryptovalutaer. Roger poengterer at det ikke er en selvf\u00f8lge at dollaren vil forbli verdensvalutaen til evig tid. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik tror at renteniv\u00e5et p\u00e5 lang sikt vil g\u00e5 noe opp,\nmen ikke opp til den gamle normalen. Han viser til at \u00abThis time it\u2019s\ndifferent\u00bb har v\u00e6rt et av de dyreste uttrykkene i historien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"hvordan-tenke-som-investor-i-et-slikt-lavrenteklima\">Hvordan tenke som investor i et slikt lavrenteklima?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 49:18) Bj\u00f8rn Erik titulerer seg sp\u00f8kefullt som en risikopervers spare\u00f8konom, og forteller at han har l\u00e5nt maksimalt de siste 20 \u00e5rene og investert i bolig og aksjefond. Dette har v\u00e6rt l\u00f8nnsomt, men det er lett \u00e5 v\u00e6re etterp\u00e5klok, sier han. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c5 l\u00e5ne for \u00e5 investere langsiktig i aktiva som har en h\u00f8yere forventet avkastning enn l\u00e5nerenten, og har mage til \u00e5 sitte gjennom nedturer, er en l\u00f8nnsom strategi &#8211; men det passer slettes ikke alle \u00e5 ta s\u00e5 h\u00f8y risiko, poengterer han. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roger er ikke s\u00e5 opptatt av renteniv\u00e5et. Som aksjeplukker er\nhan mest opptatt av \u00e5 finne kvalitetsselskaper med attraktiv verdsettelse, og\nde finnes uansett renteniv\u00e5. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mads mener et slikt lavrentemarked favoriserer stockpickere,\nsom han selv.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"equinor-pa-besok-hos-nordnet\">Equinor p\u00e5 bes\u00f8k hos Nordnet<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>(fra 53:37) Roger forteller at han f\u00f8r p\u00e5 dagen hadde bes\u00f8k av IR-ansvarlig i Equinor, som presenterte selskapet. Etter presentasjonen hadde de en runde med sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l og svar. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-wordpress wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-nordnetbloggen\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"0k6is4RQFj\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/investorpresentasjon-og-qa-med-equinor\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Investorpresentasjon og Q&amp;A med Equinor<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"&laquo;Investorpresentasjon og Q&amp;A med Equinor&raquo; &#8212; Nordnetbloggen\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/investorpresentasjon-og-qa-med-equinor\/embed\/#?secret=0k6is4RQFj\" data-secret=\"0k6is4RQFj\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00abNordic Cash Flow\u00bb og \u00abKigen\u00bb p\u00e5 Shareville sp\u00f8r: Hva skjer med amerikanske ETFer? Blir de forbudt \u00e5 selge i Norge etter nytt\u00e5r? Bj\u00f8rn Erik forteller at Nordnet vil tilby amerikanske ETFer s\u00e5 lenge regelverket tillater det. Men at et fremtidig PRIIP-regelverk kan stoppe salg av ETF-er fra amerikanske tilbydere. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mads forteller at han f\u00e5r en del sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l p\u00e5 Shareville om de aksjekj\u00f8pene og -salgene han gj\u00f8r, og om hvorfor han har \u00f8kt kontantandelen den siste tiden. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roger har f\u00e5tt noen sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l p\u00e5 Shareville om hvorfor han fremdeles er like positiv til laks, og om hvordan han stiller seg til landbasert oppdrett. H\u00f8r hans svar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>H\u00f8r forrige episode av #pengepodden: <a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/pengepodden-oljefondets-konferanse-droneangrep-i-saudi-arabia\/?autoplay=1\" rel=\"noopener\">Oljefondets konferanse &amp; droneangrep i Suadi-Arabia.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/pengepodden\" target=\"_blank\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/pengepodden\" target=\"_blank\">F\u00f8lg p\u00e5 SoundCloud<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" target=\"_blank\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vi har de laveste rentene internasjonalt p\u00e5 5000 \u00e5r, USA-b\u00f8rsen snuser p\u00e5 all time high, og eiendom er ogs\u00e5 rekordh\u00f8yt priset i mange land. Hvor skal du som sparer og investor plassere pengene dine i dagens lavrenteklima? Dette diskuterer Nordnet-trioen Bj\u00f8rn Erik, Mads og Roger i dag. Fast h\u00f8y aksjeandel \u2013 ferdig snakka? 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