{"id":36975,"date":"2019-01-10T16:22:30","date_gmt":"2019-01-10T15:22:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/?p=36975"},"modified":"2026-03-11T17:57:52","modified_gmt":"2026-03-11T16:57:52","slug":"pengepodden-comeback-for-skagen-kon-tiki","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordnet.no\/blogg\/pengepodden-comeback-for-skagen-kon-tiki\/","title":{"rendered":"#pengepodden &#8211; Comeback for Skagen Kon-Tiki?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"770\" height=\"400\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?visual=true&#038;url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F556861260&#038;show_artwork=true&#038;maxwidth=770&#038;maxheight=1000&#038;dnt=1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik og Mads har bes\u00f8k av forvalter i Skagen Kon-Tiki Fredrik Bjelland. Fredrik jobbet blant annet som forvalter i Oljefondet (NBIM) i Shanghai f\u00f8r han begynte i Skagenfondene i 2017. I dag forvalter han et av Norges st\u00f8rste aksjefond, Skagen Kon-Tiki, sammen med Cathrine Gether. Etter flere \u00e5r i motbakke, mener Fredrik og resten av Skagen-teamet at timingen er god, b\u00e5de for vekstmarkeder men ogs\u00e5 for verdiaksjer. H\u00f8r mer om hvilke posisjoner fondet har tatt, og hvordan de vekter seg for 2019.<\/p>\n<p>2016 og 2017 var to gode \u00e5r for vekstmarkeder (emerging markets, EM). Ved inngangen til 2018 var de fleste forvaltere og analytikere positive til EM. Men 2018 ble et d\u00e5rlig \u00e5r, -10 % i EM og -4 i DM (developed markets) \u2013 hvorfor?<\/p>\n<p>Fredrik forklarer den svake utviklingen i 2018 i EM med renteoppgang i USA, handelskrig, likviditetskrise i Kina og \u00f8kt politisk uro i blant annet Tyrkia og S\u00f8r-Afrika.<\/p>\n<p>Skagen Kon-Tiki var et av verdens st\u00f8rste aktive EM-fond for ti \u00e5r siden, med en forvaltningskapital p\u00e5 ca 80 mrd kr. For ett \u00e5r siden var forvaltningskapitalen 28 mrd. I dag er den ca 18 mrd. Bj\u00f8rn Erik sp\u00f8r om det har v\u00e6rt krevende med h\u00f8y innl\u00f8sning over lang tid for han som forvalter. Da m\u00e5 man ofte bruke mye tid p\u00e5 \u00e5 selge de riktige aksjene i stedenfor \u00e5 finne nye vinneraksjer. H\u00f8r Fredriks svar i podden.<\/p>\n<p>Fredrik m\u00e5 ogs\u00e5 svare for hvorfor Kon-Tiki ga betydelig mindreavkastning i forhold til EM-indeksen i 2018. Han forklarer den svake relative avkastningen med for stor Tyrkiaeksponering, som falt veldig mye, samt for h\u00f8ye investeringer i bilaksjer, som led under trussel om handelskrig og ny teknologi.<\/p>\n<p><em>Viktige forkortelser \u00e5 merke seg til denne episoden:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>DM = Developed markets (markeder med grunnleggende \u00f8konomisk stabilitet og h\u00f8y grad av likviditet)<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>EM = Emerging markets (land der den \u00f8konomiske veksten er ventet \u00e5 stige kraftigere enn land med en mer moden \u00f8konomi)<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Skagens tre U-er<\/h2>\n<p>Skagens investeringsfilosofi er kjent for \u00e5 v\u00e6rt basert p\u00e5 de tre u-ene; \u00e5 kj\u00f8pe upopul\u00e6re, underanalyserte og undervurderte aksjer. Fredrik forteller at denne investeringsstrategien gjelder fremdeles, men at Skagen ikke bruker de tre U-ene i kommunikasjonen lenger. N\u00e5 snakker Skagen om verdiforvaltning, og \u00e5 g\u00e5 mot str\u00f8mmen.<\/p>\n<p>Verdifaktoren har gitt mindreavkastning i nesten ti \u00e5r. Men Fredrik vil ikke v\u00e6re med at det er den viktigste \u00e5rsaken til Skagenfondenes mindreavkastning. Han forklarer at Kon-Tiki gjerne kj\u00f8per vekstaksjer, men som likevel er rimelig priset p\u00e5 de fleste multiplier.<\/p>\n<p>Et viktig argument for \u00e5 kj\u00f8pe EM-fond fremfor DM-fond er at EM-land normalt har h\u00f8yere \u00f8konomisk vekst enn DM-land. Gutta diskuterer om det er en sammenheng mellom \u00f8konomisk vekst i et land og landets b\u00f8rsutvikling.<\/p>\n<h2>Kinesisk statistikk og politisk risiko<\/h2>\n<p>Mads sp\u00f8r Fredrik om hvordan det var \u00e5 jobbe som forvalter for oljefondet i Kina, og om han har tiltro til statistikken som kommer fra kinesiske myndigheter. Fredrik forteller at Kon-Tiki har undervekt mot Kina, men at fondet i tillegg har mange internasjonale aksjer som har stor handel med Kina.<\/p>\n<p>Et ankepunkt mot \u00e5 investere i EM er at risikofaktorene er h\u00f8yere her. St\u00f8rre politisk risiko, d\u00e5rligere selskapsstyring, mer korrupsjon etc. Fredrik kommenterer Samsung og Hyundai Motor spesielt, to selskaper som har v\u00e6rt i s\u00f8kelyset for brudd p\u00e5 korrupsjon og menneskerettigheter.<\/p>\n<p>Til slutt gir Fredrik noen aksjetips. Konsumaksjer og kobberaksjer nevnes, finn ut hvilke flere selskaper og sektorer han trekker frem.<\/p>\n<p>H\u00f8r forrige episode av #pengepodden: <a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.nordnet.no\/pengepodden-paul-harper-om-favorittsektorene-for-2019\/?autoplay=1\" rel=\"noopener\">Paul Harper om favorittsektorene for 2019.<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/pengepodden\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"external noopener noreferrer nofollow\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Abonner via RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/pengepodden\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"external noopener noreferrer nofollow\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">F\u00f8lg p\u00e5 SoundCloud<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/no\/podcast\/pengepodden\/id1001063872\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"external noopener noreferrer nofollow\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Abonner via iTunes<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0mXSVGfhkKBxYTj638hjoj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"external noopener noreferrer nofollow\" data-wpel-link=\"external\">Spotify<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bj\u00f8rn Erik og Mads har bes\u00f8k av forvalter i Skagen Kon-Tiki Fredrik Bjelland. 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